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What’s nice about [Ron Swanson] from a storytelling point of view, I think, is that he is just a man of passion. And it’s very hard to week in and week out dream up stories that are satisfying for all the different characters. But when he’s a man of such intense passion about things, even if those things are silly or seemingly trivial to people — like that he just loves steak so much — you can build an entire story just around his trip to a steakhouse. It’s been a very good lesson for me as a writer. Because part of the theme of The Office was just like, people are just trying to get through the day. And that leads to a certain kind of story and a certain kind of character. But this show has certainly broadened our ability to tell stories by having people who are super into things. No one on The Office is really into anything.